Good alternative to popular messengers?

Scarbil · Mar 15, 2020

Guys, which messenger do you use and how private is it do you think?

I need a messenger to run my business, but most of them require my phone number or other personal info which makes me feel confused. I've found a top of encrypted messengers https://hackernoon.com/top-10-best-private-encrypted-messengers-designed-for-security-nuts-68s1wve but I haven't even heard about many of them.

So can you please advice me some?

Prensty · Mar 17, 2020

And what features do you want from the messenger? It???s just that I also know very little about it, but when I used protonmail. Everything, absolutely everything, suits me in this messenger, except, probably, the fact that it is in German. I still don???t understand what the jester is, because I spend a lot of time trying to figure out how to do what I need. Why don't you want to use your phone number, for example? Is your business really something not quite legal? =) Mb Then will Vamya have a direct road to the dark?

Scarbil · Mar 23, 2020

First, protonmail is not a messenger. Or I wonder where did you find it.
Second, using a mobile phone number is a real disaster for privacy. And it's not because of the legal or illegal things. I don't want to be tracked all the time.
So, any ideas?

Prensty · Mar 23, 2020

Oh, yes, sorry man, I???m sealed up. Of course, protonmail is not a messenger, although it would be interesting if protonmail developers would release it.
In general, recently I found information about a very interesting application called Utopia P2P, and it seems that even a phone number is not needed. But unfortunately I know very little about him.

swat1891 · Mar 24, 2020

Hi, im use Telegram - it is best messenger for me.
Also, sometimes I use Jabber for my clients.

I have a friend, he use own messenger, which developed by his team. So they are confident in privacy.

hisscotch · Mar 26, 2020

I always use Telegram. I don't even have others.

Holdentot_Accfarm · Mar 26, 2020

Veyy · Mar 26, 2020

+1 for telegram

Scarbil · Mar 28, 2020

swat1891 said:
I have a friend, he use own messenger, which developed by his team. So they are confident in privacy.

Can you share the messenger your friend uses? Or they've just created it for personal purposes only? As I've also read about new Utopia p2p messenger, but still can't find any reviews on it from real users. But trustpilot shows everyone are pleased with it's privacy.

CloakerLy · Mar 28, 2020

Telegram, in my opinion, is the best.

Prensty · Mar 30, 2020

Hmm, I have already seen discussions of this application. But I had not heard anything about Utopia p2p. Has anyone tested it maybe?

Scarbil · Apr 4, 2020

Prensty said:
Hmm, I have already seen discussions of this application. But I had not heard anything about Utopia p2p. Has anyone tested it maybe?

I've read about it numerous times on different websites and forums. But I hadn't tried it yet. At first, because it doesn't have a mobile version. But now, as we're all under the quarantine, spending time home, maybe I'll try it out. If it has all-in-one and everything works great, it may be a good way out.

karabas.links · Apr 4, 2020

Clearly telegram. Nobody can get your phone number which you use for register, It's anonymous

toshi · Apr 4, 2020

IRC with ssl

Prensty · Apr 6, 2020

Have you tested this app? I read a couple of articles and became interested. But I am a little afraid that this will be unsafe for my data.

Scarbil · Apr 8, 2020

karabas.links said:
Clearly telegram. Nobody can get your phone number which you use for register, It's anonymous

And I have another information. The last mass leakage happened during Hong Kong protests, when hundreds of user's numbers were given to local govs. Telegram only says it's so encrypted and safe. Giving your phone number, you automatically agree that it can be accessed.

Stas Va · Apr 8, 2020

Well I don't make illusions about privacy anymore. But if it's matter to you try https://signal.org/
Edward Snowdan even told he use it. I love Telegram, but there cryptoprivacy stories are more marketing value.

WANTED MAN · Apr 8, 2020

My suggestion is Softros LAN Messenger.It not require your phone number...

Irelle · Apr 8, 2020

Telegram seems like a good alternative and never crashes or is down. Interface is also clear.

Bloodrose · Apr 9, 2020

I usually use Telegram for my super-secret chats. I heard Signal is good too. If you wish to run a server for the purpose of having secure and encrypted chats, you can also setup a RocketChat or an XMPP server and invite people to connect to it.

Prensty said:
Oh, yes, sorry man, I???m sealed up. Of course, protonmail is not a messenger, although it would be interesting if protonmail developers would release it.
In general, recently I found information about a very interesting application called Utopia P2P, and it seems that even a phone number is not needed. But unfortunately I know very little about him.

I'm actually going to give Utopia P2P a try after seeing this thread. It may not be open-source but it seems to be a viable alternative to centralised messenger software.

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